tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12747853.post111577801997056598..comments2024-03-11T01:14:49.586-06:00Comments on MF GALAXY: Ancient Egyptian Afrikans, Part Two: The Coyote Kings DebateUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12747853.post-51154007913161682052007-02-06T12:32:00.000-07:002007-02-06T12:32:00.000-07:00MINISTER FAUST WRITES:
The previous comment was mi...MINISTER FAUST WRITES:<br />The previous comment was mine, BTW. Thanks again, Scott.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12747853.post-22415378191226934432007-02-06T12:31:00.000-07:002007-02-06T12:31:00.000-07:00Thanks for your comments, Scott. I completely agre...Thanks for your comments, Scott. I completely agree with you about Cleopatra the historical figure; my intention (insufficiently communicated) was to say that the FILM *Cleopatra*, as most Hollywood depictions of Ancient Egypt, depicted "foreign" Afrikans as enslaved to the "indigenous White" Egyptians. But of course, you're right... the Cleopatras (all of them) were daughters of the Ptolemies. Even if they had Egyptian mothers, after several generations we're definitely discussing Greeks and Greek-looking people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12747853.post-49395770900496639962007-02-06T12:05:00.000-07:002007-02-06T12:05:00.000-07:00I have absolutely no doubt that Tutankhamen, Hatse...I have absolutely no doubt that Tutankhamen, Hatsepshut, Nefertiti, Imhotep, or any of the other Egyptians of the earlier dynasties would nowadays be classified as African or black, based on contemporary depictions. The description of Egyptians in general in Herodotus' histories is also telling.<br /><br />Cleopatra, however - pretty clearly Greek. She has one grandmother unaccounted for who *might* have not been a Ptolemy, but unless you believe the Macedonians of the time to also have been black...<br /><br />Of course, that's a fairly minor nitpick, all things considered. I also recognize that you might be referring more to the depiction of Egyptians in general in movie versions of Cleopatra than her own ethnicity, in which case the charge is completely accurate that these films tend to whitewash what was probably an interestingly varied (but primarily African/black) racial mix by that time, simply given the admixture of settlers from the Middle East going back to Mosaic times.<br /><br />And none of this takes away from the ridiculousness in general of claiming that those of African descent don't have the same right to point to a continuity with ancient Egypt that those of European descent do to look towards Greece and Rome.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09112215621728247275noreply@blogger.com